They Listed Me with Science!

The Greatest Scientists of All Time is one of the most popular pages on the Make Lists, Not War website.  The meta-list of scientists consistently gets more hits than all but four or five other pages on the site.  The page also has quite a few comments, more than average.  I haven’t updated the meta-list since 2018, so I decided to look for more lists of “best,” “greatest,” “most important,” and “most influential” scientists of all time.  I found 10 lists that were published since 2018 and added them to the meta-list.  The results are in the links below.  There are  two lists – each one includes every scientist on three or more of the original source lists. The first meta-list is ranked, that is, the scientists on the most lists are at the top.  The second meta-list is chronological: the scientists are listed in order of their date of birth.

Greatest Scientists of All Time – Ranked
Greatest Scientists of All Time – Chronological

The meta-list contains 128 names.  There are four new additions: Ada Lovelace, George Washington Carver, Emmy Noether, and Neil deGrasse Tyson.  Although most of the rankings remain similar after I added 10 new lists to the meta-list, there were some changes. For example, Rosalind Franklin leapfrogged over both James Watson and Francis Crick in the rankings, apparently an acknowledgement that her contribution to the discovery of DNA’s structure was not properly recognized in the past.

The discussions in the comments section have highlighted some perceived problems with the meta-list.  For one thing, because I only look at English-language sources, the list may be biased towards English-speaking scientists.  Also, there may be a Western, Eurocentric or American bias, which is true for many of the meta-lists on the website.  I’m not sure what I can do to counter this tendency, as it originates in the original source lists and then is carried over into the meta-list.

Another issue is the definition of ‘best scientist.’  Most of the lists of “best scientists” I have found also include inventors, engineers, and mathematicians.  It rubs some people the wrong way to see names like Thomas Edison and James Watt on the meta-lists, as it doesn’t fit their definition of scientist.  Once again, I’m not sure how I can fix this problem (if it is a problem).  As a meta-lister, I am largely bound by the way that the original source listers defined their subject.

Another issue that has been raised is that scientists who are more famous or popular in the public eye tend to get on the “best scientist” lists even if they haven’t made many (or any) serious contributions to original research or discovery.  I’m thinking of people like Carl Sagan and Neil deGrasse Tyson.  Even Stephen Hawking and Richard Feynman’s inclusions have been criticized, even though there is no doubt that both men have done serious work in theoretical physics.  I suppose the logic of the listers is that scientists who make science accessible to the general public serve an important role and are influential in the society at large, if not as researchers in their fields.

For me, perhaps the most disappointing aspect of the meta-list is the lack of earth scientists, geologists and paleontologists on the meta-list.  It feels like the physicists and astronomers are overrepresented, and the life sciences and especially earth sciences are underrepresented.  I don’t know why this has occurred. The only geologist on the meta-list is Alfred Wegener. Alexander von Humboldt, James Hutton, Charles Lyell, and Stephen Jay Gould just missed the cutoff, with two votes each. Geologists who are on only one original source list include Georges Cuvier, Louis Agassiz, Mary Anning, Andrew Knoll, Marie Tharp, Luis Alvarez (actually a physicist but best known for his role in paleontology) and Eugene Shoemaker.

Despite all these shortcomings, I still think the meta-list is a useful tool in identifying important and influential scientists. But of course I’d say that.

4 thoughts on “They Listed Me with Science!

  1. Leonard McLaren

    Dear Mr. Becker, This is a very good site with lots of thoughtful content. Plenty of interesting material to peruse. I enjoyed the Freud book by Tallis on your recommendation. Things I learned: Freud was not shunned by the entire Vienna medical establishment, he didn’t dislike music, he didn’t avoid cafes and he didn’t write, “I recommend the Gestapo to everyone”! I feel that Tallis, despite his criticisms of Freud, is on balance pro-Freud. Ironic considering that Tallis claims that many of Freud’s ideas have no scientific basis. Still the advantage of Freud is that his is the best and most comprehensive DEPTH psychology. Other psychologies tend to be superficial and bloodless, failing to penetrate the darkness, treating the human as some sort of rational being. “The militarization of the id” is such a memorable phrase!………………………………………Have you ever considered making a meta-list of the greatest novellas? I’ve been trying to “get into” classic literature but found WUTHERING HEIGHTS and 100 YEARS OF SOLITUDE hard to get to grips with but found THE DEATH OF IVAN ILYCH much more understandable and enjoyable. Might a mega-list of the greatest novellas act as an “entry point” to great literature for people unsure where to start? Regards, Leonard

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    1. beckchris Post author

      Leonard:

      A best novellas list is a great idea. I will put this on my “to do” list and get to it when I can (probably in a few months. I’m glad you enjoyed the Freud book. My view of Freud based on that book (and reading Freud’s works) is that he was more of theorist than an experimental scientist. It is similar to the distinction between theoretical and experimental physicists. I don’t think Freud was a good experimental scientist – his evidence is anecdotal, he doesn’t use the scientific method (hypothesis, experiment, etc.) and he doesn’t do any controlled studies. But one of the points the book makes is that today’s experimental scientists have been finding evidence to support some of Freud’s “educated guesses” based on his experiences with patients and his brilliant mind. He didn’t get it all right by a long shot, but neither did Darwin, but Darwin, like Freud, is still considered a leading theoretician whose discoveries and insights changed the nature of their field of study.

      Thanks as always for the feedback,

      John B

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